Episodes

Sept. 10, 2025

Episode 46: A legal critique of the Google Antitrust Remedies Decision

This week, host Alan Chapell is joined by Daniel Hanley of the Open Markets Institute as they attempt to make legal sense of Judge Mehta's September 2, 2025, decision in the Google Search Antitrust case. In other words, they ...

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Sept. 3, 2025

Episode 45: Cobun Zweifel-Keegan on the great U.S. state regulatory e…

Cobun Zweifel-Keegan joins host Alan Chapell to discuss key themes around U.S. state efforts to enforce on privacy AI and consumer protection. We talk about regulatory tension between the federal and state governments, the ke...

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Aug. 27, 2025

Episode 44: Justin Evans and the Optimist's View of Data

Alan Chapell is joined by Justin Evan's where they discuss his book: The Little Book of Data. While designed for business teams, the book (and the podcast) also lights a path that can be helpful to the legal and regulatory fo...

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Aug. 20, 2025

Episode 43: Behind the curtain at the FTC

In this episode, Alan is joined by Shoshana Woodinsky, veteran journalist in the ads space turned tech expert for the Federal Trade Commission. Shoshana offers an unfiltered view of how things sometimes function at the Commis...

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Aug. 13, 2025

Episode 42: Contextual Integrity in the ads space

In this episode, Alan discusses Contextual Integrity as applied to the ad space with Professor Helen Nissenbaum. They go deep into profiling and the use of PETs. Alan encourages listeners to check out some of Helen's writing...

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Aug. 6, 2025

Episode 41: DuckDuckGo on balancing privacy and competition in the ad…

Kamyl Bazbaz and Joseph Jerome from DuckDuckGo join Alan to discuss the role of the browser, the intersection between privacy and competition and how DuckDuckGo differentiates itself within the craziness of larger ads space. ...

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July 30, 2025

Episode 40: Google's Ad Dominance with Ari Paparo

Ari Paparo and Alan Chapell discuss Ari's new book Yield: How Google Bought, Built, and Bullied its Way to Advertising Dominance. They also talk about the potential impact of the fallout of Google's antitrust trials on the ma...

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July 23, 2025

Epispde 39: The Google Search Antitrust Remedies

Megan Gray joins host Alan Chapell for a discussion of the various remedies being proposed in the Google Search Antitrust Trial with the DOJ as we head towards Judge Mehta's decision in that case later this summer. Learn more...

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July 16, 2025

Episode 38: Impact of FTC v Meta with Brendan Benedict

The Meta antitrust trial has been undercovered with in the ads space. Host Alan Chapell brings antitrust litigator Brendan Benedict on to get a sense of the core arguments of both the FTC and Meta and make some predictions on...

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July 9, 2025

Episode 37: Rescuing Privacy and Consumer Protection w/ Samuel Levine

Former Director of the Bureau of Consumer Protection at the FTC Samuel AA Levin joins Alan Chapell to discuss a recent law review article he co-authored, how privacy and consumer protection were undercut during the 1980's, an...

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July 2, 2025

Episode 36: Buy side vs Sell side vs Regulatory side

Host Alan Chapell moderates a debate between Erez Levin (buy-side) and Gareth Glaser (sell-side) on how the ad tech marketplace is shifting while interjecting a few nuggets about the role of privacy and competition as we look...

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June 25, 2025

Episode 35: Industry Trade Reporters vs Spin

Journalist Marty Swant (Digiday, Forbes, NY Times) joins Alan Chapell to talk about the ways an ad industry trade journalist combats spin in their search for truth. Marty also drops some thoughts on key trends in the ads spac...

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June 18, 2025

Episode 34: Jonathan Kanter on digital media & ad tech

In part two of this two part interview, host Alan Chapell and Jonathan Kanter go deep on the Google ad tech antitrust trial remedies phase. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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June 11, 2025

Episode 33: Jonathan Kanter on Antitrust & Search

Jonathan Kanter joins host Alan Chapell to discuss the changes to antitrust enforcement over the past five years and how those changes were reflected in the DOJ's enforcement against Google in the search antitrust trial. Lear...

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June 4, 2025

Episode 32: Kids privacy in the ad space with Gary Kibel

In this episode, Alan Chapell chats with Gary Kibel of the law firm Davis & Gilbert about children's privacy in the ads space. We start back in 1998 with the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA) and share how the ...

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May 28, 2025

Episode 31: Dennis Buchheim Part 2 - on Privacy Enhancing Technologie…

Alan Chapell and Dennis Buchheim talk about the future of addressability and how to create ad standards which are both principled and fair. We also question the value of legacy tech in the ads space. Learn more about your ad ...

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May 21, 2025

Episode 30: Dennis Buchheim Part 1 - on industry trades

Alan Chapell and Dennis Buchheim go deep on some of the historical challenges faced by IAB TechLab as it created Project Re arc and started moving towards a post-cookie ad space starting in 2019. Learn more about your ad choi...

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May 14, 2025

Episode 29: Privacy Enhancing Technologies with Brian May

Privacy technologist Brian May joins Alan Chapell to discuss the pro's and con's of Privacy Enhancing Technologies (PETs) within the ads space - and how sometimes we need to collectively take difficult steps in order for the ...

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May 7, 2025

Episode 28: Professor Daniel Solove on Privacy

In this episode, Alan Chapell chats with GW law school professor Daniel Solove about his latest book "On Privacy and Technology" as they try to find common ground between under and over regulation of the ads space. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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April 30, 2025

Episode 27: Richard Kramer on Google Antitrust Remedies

Alan Chapell speaks with Richard Kramer from Arete Research about the pro's and con's of various remedies being discussed in connection with Google's search, ad tech and Privacy Sandbox cases. Learn more about your ad choices...

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April 23, 2025

Episode 26: Will deprecating cookies improve the quality of the ads s…

Alan Chapell is joined by media futurist and former Googler Erez Levin - who makes the case for improved metrics and incentives in digital media. Erez suggests that third-party cookie deprecation and potential antitrust break...

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April 9, 2025

Episode 25: Rob Leathern - Why We Haven't Fixed Online Advertising Y…

Rob Leathern joins host Alan Chapell to discuss and debate Rob's 10 step plan for fixing the ads space - and why those things probably won't happen. Rob's Notes 19: Why We Haven't Fixed Online Advertising Yet Learn more about...

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April 2, 2025

Episode 24: Rich Caccappolo - Can Publishers win the Peace?

Rich Caccappolo of DMG joins Alan Chapell to discuss news publishers' approach to content monetization and AI amidst all the regulatory noise. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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March 26, 2025

Rick Bruner - The value prop of measurement

Research and measurement guru Rick Bruner joins Alan to discuss how measurement fits into the ads space - and stirs the pot a bit re: the need for identity in measurement. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/...

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